Rulings

From time to time the staff of Project 1999 will make new rulings or clarifications of the existing rules in the forum. However, it's easy for those clarifications/rulings to get lost, so this page is an attempt to archive significant staff posts.

Corpse Expiration/Recovery

Lore Item (only) Corpses Will Not Be Recovered

Llandris - 1/2/18

The staff does not #bury corpses just because there are "corpsed" items on them. We will not, however, summon any corpses that have rotted with said item(s).

Camps

Camps and Power-Levelers/Swarm Kiters

Sirken 11/07/2013

as far as dungeons go, they are made up by camps. no person or group is allowed to own more than one camp (unless theres no other players around contesting the zone/camp). so if you are in Crushbone, or Mistmoore, or Unrest, or any dungeon, and a PLer is claiming more than one camp, the PLer has to give up one camp (as chosen by the person that owned both). if the PLer refuses to give up one of his multiple camps, you should /petition in game and then take a camp.

as far as swarm kiting bards, some earlier poster hit the nail on the head. the problem isnt that bards round up a hundred mobs; the problem is that it TAKES SO LONG to round up and then kite down the mobs, and as previously mentioned, can prevent anyone else from seeing a pop for over an hour. ive seen this in OoT, DL, and OT entirely too often, and i have told players repeatedly that if you can not find a mob because some one is kiting more than 4 of them, feel free to peel one off. no staff member is going to give a player grief for peeling 1 mob off a bard thats kiting an entire zone (or an entire island in the OoT situations).

Holding a Camp While AFK

Menden 2/12/18

In regards to questions about the requirements to maintain a camp of Stormfeather (a mob with an 18-hour window who can skip spawns, making it a potentially 24+ hour camp) ...

For the most part, a camp is yours as long as you have presence at that camp. If you die, go LD or leave the zone you can lose the camp if another player calls you on it. SF, AC, Lucan are no exceptions.

Staying awake for the duration of SF spawn is dumb and bad for your health, think about it.

Players can absolutely go AFK while camping SF, but they must engage within a reasonable amount of time. I would say 5ish minutes for this encounter. This mob is soloable so no real force is needed. With that, if Player A was camping SF, SF pops, Player A is throwing some buffs on and it takes 5 minutes and 10 seconds to do this(plus med time), I wouldn't advise Player B to attack SF, that'd be a douche move. If SF pops and Player A attacks SF and obviously kiting(delaying), then use your best judgement. But if you are going to step in and nab someone's SFs, there's always a chance you will be suspended so don't cry to me, be damn well sure you are in the right because if that kiting player is trying to slow/snare/gain mana/whatever and you use this post as an excuse to attack SF, I will come down on you hard.

Also with SF, there's no PHs or guards to keep down. It's no different than AFKing between spawns for any other camp like Ass/sup, oot AC, frenzy, ect...

Responding to a CC is not a requirement, but it's a nice thing to do.

Player: These people also used to kite SF around for however long it took to find a buyer for loot rights.

Menden: Selling SF loot rights, this is a douche move, I will suspend you for it under PNP.

Player: They actually had staff-enforced rules on live. If someone was camping X, and wouldn't give it up after they got their desired item (ie. not after they'd farmed ten copies of it over 20 hours) the GMs would intervene and force them to give the camp up to the next person on the list. Many people aren't aware of this because of the general good etiquette of the population back then, the lack of neckbeards monopolizing camps, and the variance between how different GMs handled things on different servers. However if you read the guidebooks written by Verant for GMs in that era stuff like that was clearly covered.

Another Player: I've watched people corpse 5+ rings in one session. You can swim offshore of the island and see a pile of naked bodies just under the waterline

Menden: Corpsing AC rings, We've started handling lore camps differently lately due to the abuse. Corpsing AC rings is a douche move, get your ring and pass the torch. I haven't seen any petitions lately complaining about AC abuse, the price is dropping also which is nice. If you are a player waiting for this camp and see someone corpsing a ring, let us know, be sure, don't waste our time. SOW pots are better anyway :P

Player: Menden told me today that kiting/stalling non-raid mobs has a limit, in the range of 10 minutes or so. Another guide (Cylok? I'm bad with names) told me that someone can stall Lodi indefinitely if they'd like, so who knows I guess.

Menden: Great guy, by the way. Delaying a kill(kiting), 5-10 minutes is fairly reasonable, it all depends on the situation. Like I said before, don't kite a mob around waiting for your raid force for more then 5-10 minutes if you get FTE, be ready to engage. And if you are watching someone else do this, be sure they are truly delaying, don't let the pixelfever get the best of you.

Player: Camps I've run with a list have operated under one basic principle:

If you fail to maintain a presence in the zone (preferably main), you forfeit your spot on the camp. For a camp like Stormfeather, that would mean that nobody is on the list unless physically (both in zone and NOT afk) at the time that the camp is ready to be turned over.

Ie those that want to be on the list cannot be logged in elsewhere for any reason. Otherwise those willing to forfeit right to play in other capacity are hosed.

For a camp like SF that has 36hr spawn + chance to skip? Going afk to sleep or do whatever else is A-ok in my book ... as long as you are at keyboard and ready when it pops.

Menden: Unofficially speaking, AC camp, sure. If you are next at the list I would stay near by so the trade off can happen quickly. If the list keeper gets his spawn and leaves and you are not there, you can lose the camp. For SF, I find it dumb to have to stay in the zone for that long. But if you wish to keep your spot it's in your best interest to be there during the spawns.

The thing is, lists are really driven by the players, if you are the list keeper it's in your rights to tell people if they want on the list, they must stay in the zone.

Here's the thing folks, we want people to have fun, but there are lots of players who like to abuse what we say and what few rules we have out there. If we suspect you are lawyerquesting or being a dick, we have no issue suspending you for PNP. If you feel I'm not being fair, go speak to Llandris, Braknar or Sirken. Don't be a jerk to me, I'm really here to help you guys enjoy the game.

If you ever need help understanding how a camp in particular works, don't be afraid of posting in the petitions / exploits forums asking a question, I'm happy to work it out with you. But keep in mind, we don't have solid rules written down for specific camps because every situation is different, but we do state guidelines here and there.

High Keep Basement: Up to four camps

Llandris - 8/16/17

In the essence of transparency, I'm going to comment and clarify Cylocks ruling. The basement of HK CAN be split into 4 separate camps, depending on the amount of players in zone willing to contest. After discussion with the rest of the staff, it is of utmost importance that us, as a staff, are all on the same page. Happy hunting!

Character Changes

A character's deity can not be changed

Sirken - 4/20/17

Player: Is it possible to change your Deity?

Sirken: no, you can not :(

Log Parsing Programs

Log Parsing Programs Are Allowed

Rogean - 9/10/12

Programs that parse the log file are fine, as long as they do not do any type of automatic control/response/manipulation/macro on your character in place of manual control.

Using an IP Exemption to Transfer Items Faster

IP Exemptions Should Not Be Used to Transfer Items Faster

Player: Is this 2boxing:

Log on blue99 with Account 1

But load the game and at Log in screen for Account 2

Account 1 drops items and then /exit out

Log in with Account 2, then log on blue99, pick up items

Account 1 character still there, but obviously LD

Llandris - 5/2/18

Loading up 2 clients on 1 PC is not why we grant IP exemptions. I would advise against it

Selling Character Names (For Plat)

Selling bad names is illegal (but, presumably, selling "good" names is ok)

Llandris - 10/4/17

It's illegal to sell bad names though

(Raid) Mistakes

If you train another guild's tracker you must make it right with them

Sirken - 11/3/17

Note*:If you train another guild's trackers, you need to make it right with them afterwards. If you are a regular member that messed up and aren't sure what to do, then you should contact an officer and ask how to handle the situation (this is one of the reasons guilds have officers).

If you make a mistake, you should try to do everything you can to make it right

Sirken - 9/3/17

Note*:If you make a mistake, you should try to do everything you can to make it right. What you absolutely should not do is turn around and capitalize on your error at the expense of another guild.

RMT (Real Money Transfers)

No bans for (only) dropping/picking up items or for large trades

Sirken - 11/11/17

I'm just gonna go ahead and say this, we don't ban people for dropping or picking up items, nor do we ban players simply for large one way trades. There is no magical alarm that goes off when these things happens, and to be perfectly honest, these things happen all the time, every day, without people catching bans. If your account was banned for RMT, then your account is in someway connected to a person we know for certain was RMTing. Keep up with your petition in the forum if you made one and answer the questions that are presented to you. I'm not going to explain why we respond the way we do to catch RMT. But do know that if your account got hit, while it doesn't mean you 100% RMT'd, it does mean there's a link between your account and a RMT seller that was recently busted.

You can be banned for buying pizza with plat

Sirken - 10/4/17

Player: Buying pizza with Plat RMT?

Sirken: yes, and you can be banned for it

Rule Changes

Rules are not applied retroactively

Sirken - 10/24/17

because the bit you bolded in your quote was not added until 10/18 and the petition was before that. this may be a shock, but rules dont retroactively apply.