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== Proposed Item Page Changes == | == Proposed Item Page Changes == | ||
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Thanks for writing up your thoughts, I agree with most of them. Let's separate out style from content first though. | Thanks for writing up your thoughts, I agree with most of them. Let's separate out style from content first though. | ||
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I agree, this is a technical difficulty I ran into with using a template. In fact I disabled the "edit button on each section" for item pages because clicking it leads you nowhere useful and can making editing extremely frustrating. For example, I did not remove it on mob pages, see [[Ambassador DVinn]] and what happens if you try to edit the Description (it takes you in to edit the template). If you know of a solution for this I will fix it. | I agree, this is a technical difficulty I ran into with using a template. In fact I disabled the "edit button on each section" for item pages because clicking it leads you nowhere useful and can making editing extremely frustrating. For example, I did not remove it on mob pages, see [[Ambassador DVinn]] and what happens if you try to edit the Description (it takes you in to edit the template). If you know of a solution for this I will fix it. | ||
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2. Not including sections for which there is no information. | 2. Not including sections for which there is no information. | ||
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I designed this with a widescreen (1920) screen in mind, in which case it looks good I think. I agree on a (1680) screen it is a bit big. Make it 100px less wide? | I designed this with a widescreen (1920) screen in mind, in which case it looks good I think. I agree on a (1680) screen it is a bit big. Make it 100px less wide? | ||
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=== Example === | === Example === | ||
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<div style='margin:20px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #cca;'> | <div style='margin:20px;padding:10px;border:1px solid #cca;'> | ||
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|itemname = Small Bronze Helm | |itemname = Small Bronze Helm | ||
|lucy_img_ID = 550 | |lucy_img_ID = 550 | ||
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Race: ELF HIE DEF DWF HFL GNM<br> | Race: ELF HIE DEF DWF HFL GNM<br> | ||
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)<br> | Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)<br> | ||
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| − | + | Part of the ''small'' [[Bronze Armor]] set. | |
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= Drops From = | = Drops From = | ||
[[Mistmoore Castle]] | [[Mistmoore Castle]] | ||
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[[Rathe Mountains]] | [[Rathe Mountains]] | ||
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= Sold By = | = Sold By = | ||
| − | This item is sold by merchants | + | * This item is not sold by merchants. |
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| − | + | = Related Quests = | |
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| + | * This item is not crafted by players. | ||
| + | = Tradeskill Recipes = | ||
| + | * This item is not used in player tradeskills. | ||
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| + | = Foraged In = | ||
| + | * This item cannot be foraged. | ||
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Revision as of 02:01, 9 November 2011
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Item Page
Hey, lots of interesting ideas for the item pages. I am moving it here for now and replacing it with the current "template" for items. I am definitely open to improving this and adding some of the elements you have on this page, but let's think more about them first (and how we would update all existing item pages to such a new format). --Ravhin 15:55, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Proposed Item Page Changes
Sorry about the UNIQ... corruption of the section names, it will go away once we delete the AuctionTracker from this page.
Thanks for writing up your thoughts, I agree with most of them. Let's separate out style from content first though.
Content
In particular, all of your points under "lacking information" are already considered. For example: Short Beer.
Currently, the categories of information included with Template:Itempage are:
- Notes (can be anything)
- Drops from which mobs
- Related to/used in which quests
- Player crafted (which tradeskill, trivial)
- Used in player tradeskils (which tradeskills)
- Foraged by players (in which zones)
- Sold by merchants (name,zone,location)
- Book contents (if a book)
Is there something missing from this list that you can think of that would be useful?
Style
1. Lack of section setup (lack of "edit" buttons on each section).
I agree, this is a technical difficulty I ran into with using a template. In fact I disabled the "edit button on each section" for item pages because clicking it leads you nowhere useful and can making editing extremely frustrating. For example, I did not remove it on mob pages, see Ambassador DVinn and what happens if you try to edit the Description (it takes you in to edit the template). If you know of a solution for this I will fix it.
Also, the fact that it is "template code" instead of just wiki markup that people may be more familiar with is unfortunate. But I don't know how to use templates without doing it this way? If you have some reference I am happy to look into it.
2. Not including sections for which there is no information.
For example, Small Bronze Helm does not include a "sold by merchants" section at all because it is not sold by merchants. I agree it would make things look more consistent if the same section were present on every page, but then again some are almost always mutually exclusive - what is sold is rarely dropped by mobs, for instance. Furthermore, the classic Allakhazam approach has been what we have used here, not including sections that are "empty", for instance [1] does not have any mention of merchants or quests.
On this point I'm not sure which is better to be honest.
3. Auction pricing too big.
I designed this with a widescreen (1920) screen in mind, in which case it looks good I think. I agree on a (1680) screen it is a bit big. Make it 100px less wide?
4. Double column.
I agree if we are including enough sections.
Example
Just a quick try at what the current item page for Small Bronze Helm might look like including all categories.
| 30d Avg | 90d Avg | All Time Avg | All Time Range | # Seen |
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| ? ± ? | ? ± ? | 11 ± 6 | 1 / 75 | 192 |
| Date | Seller | Price | Date | Seller | Price |
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| 2021-02-10 | Qoxz | 10 | 2021-02-06 | Temptres | 12 |
| 2021-02-05 | Temptres | 12 | 2021-02-04 | Temptres | 12 |
| 2021-02-03 | Temptres | 12 | 2021-02-02 | Temptres | 12 |
| 2020-09-08 | Fufus | 10 | 2020-03-27 | Mikiko | 5 |
| 2019-08-11 | Rapoo | 10 | 2019-08-03 | Rapoo | 10 |
| 2019-07-31 | Rapoo | 20 | 2019-07-30 | Rapoo | 20 |
| 2019-07-11 | Varthe | 10 | 2019-07-10 | Varthe | 10 |
| 2019-05-02 | Glyr | 20 | 2019-05-01 | Glyr | 20 |
| 2019-04-29 | Ladyteyla | 10 | 2019-04-27 | Youbuy | 12 |
| 2019-03-31 | Njikam | 15 | 2019-03-24 | Stochos | 10 |
(Last 20 Recorded Auctions)
Slot: HEAD
AC: 10
WT: 5.6 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ELF HIE DEF DWF HFL GNM
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Part of the small Bronze Armor set.
Drops From
Sold By
- This item is not sold by merchants.
Related Quests
- None
Player Crafted
- This item is not crafted by players.
Tradeskill Recipes
- This item is not used in player tradeskills.
Foraged In
- This item cannot be foraged.
