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| zone              = [[Western Wastes]]
 
| zone              = [[Western Wastes]]
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| location          = 13% @ (2154, -4036)
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| location          = 13% @ (2199, -3077)
  
 
| AC                = 448
 
| AC                = 448
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| special          = [[Dragon Roar]], [[Frost Breath]] (250 damage version), Enrage, Rampage, Summon, Charm, Slowable, Uncharmable, Unfearable,<br>Unmezzable, Unstunable, See Invis, Gates
 
| special          = [[Dragon Roar]], [[Frost Breath]] (250 damage version), Enrage, Rampage, Summon, Charm, Slowable, Uncharmable, Unfearable,<br>Unmezzable, Unstunable, See Invis, Gates
  
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| description = Fears / Harla Dar is the mother of Phara Dar and the late Frakadar. Her partner was once Jaled Dar. <br> 3 Hour respawn.
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| description = Fears / Harla Dar is the mother of [[Phara Dar]] and the late Frakadar. Her partner was once Jaled Dar. <br> 3 Hour respawn.
  
 
| known_loot =  
 
| known_loot =  
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</li><li> {{:Peerless Dragonhide Belt}}      <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (12%)</span>
 
</li><li> {{:Peerless Dragonhide Belt}}      <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (12%)</span>
 
</li><li> {{:Matchless Dragonhide Belt}}    <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (12%)</span>
 
</li><li> {{:Matchless Dragonhide Belt}}    <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (12%)</span>
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</li><li> {{:Harla Dar's Talisman}}          <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (12%)</span>
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</li><li>  {{:Exquisite Velium Brawl Stick}}  <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (13%)</span>
 +
</li><li> {{:First Half of Al`Tarlkal's Tome}}<span class='drare'>(Always)</span> <span class='ddb'>[3] 1x 100% (100%)</span>
 +
</li><li> {{:Greater Dragon's Head}}<span class='drare'>(Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[3] 1x 100% (100%)</span>
 +
</li><li> {{:Harla Dar's Talisman}}          <span class='drare'>(Always)</span> <span class='ddb'>[1] 1x 25% (12%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Aegis of Ro|Spell: Aegis of Ro]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (4%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Aegis of Ro|Spell: Aegis of Ro]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (4%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Aegis|Spell: Aegis]]            <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (4%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Aegis|Spell: Aegis]]            <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (4%)</span>
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</li><li> [[Shroud of Death|Spell: Shroud of Death]]<span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Shroud of Death|Spell: Shroud of Death]]<span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Death Peace|Spell: Death Peace]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Death Peace|Spell: Death Peace]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
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</li><li> [[Gift of Insight]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
+
</li><li> [[Gift of Insight|Spell: Gift of Insight]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
−
</li><li> [[Wave of Healing]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
+
</li><li> [[Wave of Healing|Spell: Wave of Healing]] <span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Call of the Predator|Spell: Call of the Predator]]<span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
 
</li><li> [[Call of the Predator|Spell: Call of the Predator]]<span class='drare'>(Ultra Rare)</span> <span class='ddb'>[2] 1x 10% (5%)</span>
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</li><li> {{:First Half of Al`Tarlkal's Tome}}<span class='drare'>(Always)</span> <span class='ddb'>[3] 1x 100% (100%)</span>
 
 
</li></ul>
 
</li></ul>
  
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* [[Aid the Dar Brood]]
 
* [[Aid the Dar Brood]]
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* [[Dragon Heads]]
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* [[Living Dragons]]
 
* [[The Ancient Tomes]]
 
* [[The Ancient Tomes]]
  
 
}}
 
}}
  
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==Sample Loot Drops Recorded from 8 Harla Dar Kills==
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==Harla Dar's Loot and Torpor==
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Notes: Out of 20 Harla Dar kills attended, 2 Torpors dropped.  Out of an additional approximatley 15-20 Harla Dar Kills, 1 Torpor dropped in total, for approximately an 8% drop rate.  These 8 kills were tracked with exactly what dropped to try and get a better idea of the drop rates.
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This is a table of sequential drops from Harla Dar investigating her as a possible source for Torpor.  She is on a 3 hour respawn timer here and is infrequently killed, so is usually up.  This can provide both a list of possible drops, as well as some insight into frequency.
  
 
Generally, she will always drop her 6 neck and her quest piece.  She then usually drops 3-5 spells, and can drop Kunark spells despite being a Velious dragon (as she is lore related to Phara Dar).  No [[First Brood Talisman]] has dropped in any of these kills, meaning it is either very rare or not on her table.
 
Generally, she will always drop her 6 neck and her quest piece.  She then usually drops 3-5 spells, and can drop Kunark spells despite being a Velious dragon (as she is lore related to Phara Dar).  No [[First Brood Talisman]] has dropped in any of these kills, meaning it is either very rare or not on her table.
  
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All of these kills were before the push change.  She could be reliably killed with two groups before that, with the biggest problem being push to stop gate.  Testing with trying to block gate with Mana Sieve was mostly unsuccessful; the thought at the time was that her mana regen per tick was greater than the cost of gate.  It is currently unknown if her mana regen is fixed or if she is now much harder to kill as a result.
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Most of these kills were before the push change.  She could be reliably killed with two groups before that, with the biggest problem being push to stop gate.  Kill attempts since the push change have been mixed, with some successes and some gates despite mana sieve.  It is unclear exactly how or why she gated in one instance and not another.
 +
 
 +
There are 2 Torpor drops out of 21 kills.  Sample size is small, but modeling it as a binomial distribution, the 95% confidence interval calculator gave a Clopper-Pearson interval of 1.17% to 30.38% with a best estimate of 9.52% for Torpor drop chance.
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 +
==Loot Table Hypothesis:==
 +
The way loot works is that there are a number of tables associated with a mob, some of which may have more than 1 roll.  For each table, there are items which have a percent chance to be the drop.  The chances don't have to sum to 100%, so a roll on a loot table might not drop anything.
 +
 
 +
For example, Harla Dar's Talisman and the First Half of Al`Tarlkal's Tome are both definitely on their own tables, with a 100% chance each to drop as the only item, with Harla set to roll once on each of those tables.  The question is how Harla's Spell drops are structured.
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 +
Based on the number and type of spells dropped, we can try to guess what the table looks like and how many rolls she gets on it.  There are 33 different spells in the first 21 kills, with a minimum of 2 and maximum of 6.  Thus, she is rolling at least 6 times on a table with spells.  Inspection of the drops recorded below shows that the spells are likely separated into a Kunark spell table and a Velious spell table, with 3 rolls on each.  The drops were recorded in the order they appeared in on the corpse; note that the Kunark spells are always first after the Talisman and Tome, followed by the Greater Dragon head/Meat/Belt, followed by the Velious Spells.  This should be because the corpse is being populated in items by first rolling on the tables for the Talisman, Tome, Kunark Spells, Head/Meat/Belt, Velious Spells in that order.
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 +
Current hypothesis is that all of the 58+ Velious spells are on the Velious spell table with a 4% chance each, and all the 59+ Kunark spells with either a 1% or 2% chance on each roll.  If correct, that would give Harla a Torpor EV of either 0.03 Torpors/kill or 0.06 Torpors/kill depending.  It may be possible to further refine this as additional data is gathered.
  
 
{| class="eoTable2" style="width: 95%;"
 
{| class="eoTable2" style="width: 95%;"
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* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Trucidation]]
 +
* [[Wind of Tishanian]]
 
* [[Greater Dragon's Head]]
 
* [[Greater Dragon's Head]]
 
* [[Arch Lich]]
 
* [[Arch Lich]]
 
* [[Aegolism]]
 
* [[Aegolism]]
−
* [[Trucidation]]
 
−
* [[Wind of Tishanian]]
 
 
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
−
* [[Torpor]]
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* '''[[Torpor]]'''
 
* [[Manastorm]]
 
* [[Manastorm]]
 
* [[Talisman of the Raptor]]
 
* [[Talisman of the Raptor]]
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* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
−
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 
−
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 
 
* [[Greater Vocaration: Air]]
 
* [[Greater Vocaration: Air]]
 
* [[Wind of Tishanian]]
 
* [[Wind of Tishanian]]
 
* [[Banishment of Shadows]]
 
* [[Banishment of Shadows]]
 
* [[Ice Spear of Solist]]
 
* [[Ice Spear of Solist]]
 +
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 +
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 
|}
 
|}
  
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* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Sunstrike]]
 
* [[Vengeance of Al`Kabor]]
 
* [[Vengeance of Al`Kabor]]
 +
* [[Reinforced Dragonhide Belt]]
 
* [[Gift of Brilliance]]
 
* [[Gift of Brilliance]]
 
* [[Ice Spear of Solist]]
 
* [[Ice Spear of Solist]]
−
* [[Sunstrike]]
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| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* '''[[Torpor]]'''
 +
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Greater Vocaration: Air]]
 +
* [[Spirit of Oak]]
 +
* [[Word of Redemption]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Form of the Hunter]]
 +
* [[Manastorm]]
 +
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 +
* [[Focus of Spirit]]
 +
|}
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{| class="eoTable2" style="width: 95%;"
 +
! Kill 9
 +
! Kill 10
 +
! Kill 11
 +
! Kill 12
 +
|-
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Manastorm]]
 +
* [[Dragon Meat]]
 
* [[Reinforced Dragonhide Belt]]
 
* [[Reinforced Dragonhide Belt]]
 +
* [[Monster Summoning III]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Banishment]]
 +
* [[Divine Intervention]]
 +
* [[Banishment]]
 +
* [[Greater Dragon's Head]]
 +
* [[Focus of Spirit]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Entrapping Roots]]
 +
* [[Avatar]]
 +
* [[Entrapping Roots]]
 +
* [[Greater Dragon's Head]]
 +
* [[Dragon Meat]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Banishment]]
 +
* [[The Unspoken Word]]
 +
|}
 +
 +
{| class="eoTable2" style="width: 95%;"
 +
! Kill 13
 +
! Kill 14
 +
! Kill 15
 +
! Kill 16
 +
|-
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Aegis of Ro]]
 +
* [[Talisman of the Raptor]]
 +
* [[Dragon Meat]]
 +
* [[Peerless Dragonhide Belt]]
 +
* [[Aegolism]]
 +
* [[Monster Summoning III]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Wind of Tishanian]]
 +
* [[Greater Dragon's Head]]
 +
* [[Protection of the Glades]]
 +
* [[Focus of Spirit]]
 +
* [[Aegolism]]
 
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
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* [[Call of the Predator]]
 
* [[Call of the Predator]]
 
* [[Death Peace]]
 
* [[Death Peace]]
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|}
 +
 +
{| class="eoTable2" style="width: 95%;"
 +
! Kill 17
 +
! Kill 18
 +
! Kill 19
 +
! Kill 20
 +
|-
 
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
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* [[Call of the Predator]]
 
* [[Call of the Predator]]
 
* [[Death Peace]]
 
* [[Death Peace]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Aegolism]]
 +
* [[Death Peace]]
 +
* [[Gift of Brilliance]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Flaming Sword of Xuzl]]
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* [[Cannibalize IV]]
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| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Disintegrate]]
 +
* [[Greater Dragon's Head]]
 +
* [[Dragon Meat]]
 +
* [[Cannibalize IV]]
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* [[Arch Lich]]
 +
|}
 +
{| class="eoTable2" style="width: 95%;"
 +
! Kill 21
 +
! Kill 22
 +
! Kill 23
 +
! Kill 24
 +
|-
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Avatar]]
 +
* [[Dragon Meat]]
 +
* [[Reinforced Dragonhide Belt]]
 +
* [[Arch Lich]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* [[Harla Dar's Talisman]]
 +
* [[First_Half_of_Al%60Tarlkal%27s_Tome]]
 +
* [[Disintegrate]]
 +
* [[Monster Summoning III]]
 +
| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* TBD
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| valign="top" style="background-color:#f5f5f5;" |
 +
* TBD
 
|}
 
|}
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[[Category:Western Wastes]]
 
[[Category:Western Wastes]]

Latest revision as of 04:12, 19 February 2024

Velious Era (added December 2000-2001)


Harla Dar
Harla Dar
Race: Lava Dragon
Class: Enchanter
Level: 66
Spawn
Zone: Western Wastes
Location: 13% @ (2199, -3077)


Stats
AC: 448
HP: 60000 (15)
Damage per hit: 264
Attacks per round: 2 (78%)
Special: Dragon Roar, Frost Breath (250 damage version), Enrage, Rampage, Summon, Charm, Slowable, Uncharmable, Unfearable,
Unmezzable, Unstunable, See Invis, Gates

Description

Fears / Harla Dar is the mother of Phara Dar and the late Frakadar. Her partner was once Jaled Dar.
3 Hour respawn.

Known Loot

Factions

Opposing Factions

Related Quests



Harla Dar's Loot and Torpor

This is a table of sequential drops from Harla Dar investigating her as a possible source for Torpor. She is on a 3 hour respawn timer here and is infrequently killed, so is usually up. This can provide both a list of possible drops, as well as some insight into frequency.

Generally, she will always drop her 6 neck and her quest piece. She then usually drops 3-5 spells, and can drop Kunark spells despite being a Velious dragon (as she is lore related to Phara Dar). No First Brood Talisman has dropped in any of these kills, meaning it is either very rare or not on her table.

Most of these kills were before the push change. She could be reliably killed with two groups before that, with the biggest problem being push to stop gate. Kill attempts since the push change have been mixed, with some successes and some gates despite mana sieve. It is unclear exactly how or why she gated in one instance and not another.

There are 2 Torpor drops out of 21 kills. Sample size is small, but modeling it as a binomial distribution, the 95% confidence interval calculator gave a Clopper-Pearson interval of 1.17% to 30.38% with a best estimate of 9.52% for Torpor drop chance.

Loot Table Hypothesis:

The way loot works is that there are a number of tables associated with a mob, some of which may have more than 1 roll. For each table, there are items which have a percent chance to be the drop. The chances don't have to sum to 100%, so a roll on a loot table might not drop anything.

For example, Harla Dar's Talisman and the First Half of Al`Tarlkal's Tome are both definitely on their own tables, with a 100% chance each to drop as the only item, with Harla set to roll once on each of those tables. The question is how Harla's Spell drops are structured.

Based on the number and type of spells dropped, we can try to guess what the table looks like and how many rolls she gets on it. There are 33 different spells in the first 21 kills, with a minimum of 2 and maximum of 6. Thus, she is rolling at least 6 times on a table with spells. Inspection of the drops recorded below shows that the spells are likely separated into a Kunark spell table and a Velious spell table, with 3 rolls on each. The drops were recorded in the order they appeared in on the corpse; note that the Kunark spells are always first after the Talisman and Tome, followed by the Greater Dragon head/Meat/Belt, followed by the Velious Spells. This should be because the corpse is being populated in items by first rolling on the tables for the Talisman, Tome, Kunark Spells, Head/Meat/Belt, Velious Spells in that order.

Current hypothesis is that all of the 58+ Velious spells are on the Velious spell table with a 4% chance each, and all the 59+ Kunark spells with either a 1% or 2% chance on each roll. If correct, that would give Harla a Torpor EV of either 0.03 Torpors/kill or 0.06 Torpors/kill depending. It may be possible to further refine this as additional data is gathered.

Kill 1 Kill 2 Kill 3 Kill 4
Kill 5 Kill 6 Kill 7 Kill 8
Kill 9 Kill 10 Kill 11 Kill 12
Kill 13 Kill 14 Kill 15 Kill 16
Kill 17 Kill 18 Kill 19 Kill 20
Kill 21 Kill 22 Kill 23 Kill 24
  • TBD
  • TBD
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