User talk:Uteunayr

Necro Guide

Hi, I read (well, skimmed) your necromancer guide and I noticed it heavily emphasizes very slow EXP camps - one or two monsters on a six-minute spawn. Necromancers are capable of EXPing much faster than this by hitting up more populated camps or zones with a lot of wandering monsters. I was wondering if you would be against adding a note to this effect; clearly things like the bard diet are popular for some people, but other people would find them a big snoozefest, not to mention inefficient. I'm not saying go all-out and put up suggestions for faster EXP camps, but maybe make a note that the guide is for slow and reliable EXP rather than fast and efficient EXP. Also, no offense meant here, but I'm surprised that someone with an eye for min/maxing has no interest in min/maxing their EXP over time. If you care about rolling an Iksar making you a more efficient necromancer, why do you then advocate going after one monster every six minutes? Even a solo cleric can do that. --Estu (talk) 13:28, 18 September 2013 (EDT)

Response

I'm a graduate student, and the vast majority of my time is spent reading well over 1000 pages a week, working on research, and writing papers to present at conferences. It is not that I am not interested in min/maxing EXP over time, it is that my time is limited, so bard diet, aviak guards, toll booth... These are camps that are very friendly to someone in my situation that wants to sit there idle, and look back for a minute or two every repop. I did not write down about other places because I don't have experience in other places, and any information I offer would be limited. Since it is my guide, I am not going to put bad information in the list.

I put a note at the beginning that this is not a speedrun guide.

I also believe saying my guide heavily emphasizes them is being a bit too rough. Of the guide, here's how I see it. I classify a slow camp as being one in which you have excess rest time above 100% mana/HP. It is a fast/regular camp if you can always have another pull up.

Slow Camps 12-16 - Misty Storyswapper 24-29 - Cordelia Minster 29-31 - Travis Two-Tone/Dark Deathsinger/Drizda Tunesinger 34-37 - Toll Booth

Fast/Regular Camps 16-24 - Kurns Tower 31-34 - Halfling Guards in Misty 37-46 - Specres 46-49 - Bloodgills 49-51 - Bloodgills 51-55 - Nobles 55-60 - Charasis Basement

Each of the bards cannot be killed more than once per respawn, and are not nearby other adds. Toll booth has nothing else near its level other than the 2 guards. So yes, for these, they are slow camps.

Kurns tower has a near endless stream of enemies. Halfling Guards at Misty, there are 3 single pulls, which, counting in running, will cap your mana regen. Spectres are a 16 minute repop of 8, so 1 kill every 2 minutes. It is just enough time that when starting, you can go around the isle, kill each spec, and the first spec will respawn when you're at full mana. Bloodgills may be a "slow camp" just because you can easily kill them, but that xp is sick. 1% a dark blue kill all the way to 51 is sick. Nobles can also be considered a "slow camp", but you have a double xp bonus in that zone, and there are 7 possible mobs (2 nobles, 1 upstairs noble, 1 Isabella, 1 guard captain, 2 bards), which will cap your mana potential.

Charasis is in no sense of the word a slow camp. That is one of the most mentally draining places you can go to.

So, I wouldn't say I heavily emphasize them, I just have them.

Necro Class Page

Very nice additions to Necromancer, I hope you have similar plans for the other classes :)

--Ravhin 22:46, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I might, but it will be a long ways in the future. I am working on this because I have one 60 Necro, and another at 54, with one being a DE and one being an Iksar, and I feel the wiki did not adequately live up to what the class truly is in its current state in the game. I don't really have any expertise in other classes to update other wikis. :(

However, once I finish my Iksar Necro, I will be working on either an Enchanter or Shaman, so I might do one of those.

Pre Planar Armor Page

What exactly is wrong when you try to edit it? Many people have, and it works fine for me. Also, did you not see it "included" into the Necromancer page (with the LSTH command)? That looked fine to me. --Ravhin (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

Response

My apologies for my lack of knowledge on how to properly respond other than editing these on...

But basically, everytime I tried to simple coalesce the two lists... Because honestly there is no reason for 2 lists of Necro droppable gear... The page simply refused to update for me. If you want to use the new coalesced list on the Necro page, edit the page in, and then do that line of code that makes the necro page draw it from the page you run, awesome. I just don't see the reason for two lists of stuff.